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Livy’s DebtorPrompt: How did Livy's debtor use his body to stir up the outrage of his fellow Romans?How does this compare to Brutus' use of Lucretia's body to encourage outrage against theTarquins? Do you think this sort of emotional appeal is an ethical way to encouragerevolution? (See Livy pp 133138)● Moral agency○ NB: Women and slaves were not considered moral agents in the time of themonarchy and early Republic○ Lucretia was not a moral agent and could not consent to use or misuse of herbody○ Debtor was a slave and his body was owned by his master;● use of debtor's own body vs Brutus using Lucretia's body○ who owns debtor's body?○ is debtor able to use his own body? (especially if he is not a moral agent)○ the mob using the debtor's body vs Brutus using Lucretia's body > shouldwe compare debtor to Lucretia('s body) rather than debtor to Brutus?● The issue of intentions in SMA○ Brutus: intention to bring down monarchy  either for greater good or for ownselfish purposes○ Brutus: knowingly places self to be elected leader? Playing the fool asevidence he knew he would be able to take over eventually?○ ulterior motives of debtor?● The issue of outcomes in SMA: do ends justify the means?○ positive vs negative outcomes○ we have the benefit of distance● Alternative courses of action?○ Brutus: eloquence versus showing Lucretia's body (LJ)○ for debtor?○ for mob?● Decision making: is it logical or emotional?○ Mob mentality○ divorce actions of mob from actions of debtor● RRRs○ Brutus vs debtor vs mob vs senators vs Servilius● bodies as concrete evidence of harms○ bodies as bearing absolute truth● Is the ability to directly relate to a situation required to advocate for it? Does onehave to be of the same status to advocate for change? (DC)● Does status play a role in how critical we are of the ethics of an individual'sbehavior? (DC)○


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